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May 29, 2007
ORGMNGT as an Elective
To the ST and IST students this 1st term, SY 2007-08---why do you think you were prescribed by your departments to take Orgmngt as your "compulsory" elective? ICTM students, you may want to share your opinion...
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Justin Tuason ORGMGNT S18
Being an IST student major, I find it relevant and necessary to have a background knowledge on management and organization ideas primarily because I can use such learning in "real-life management situations". Aside from having the proper technical skills we can use IT-related concepts especially when we become part of the corporate world. It would definitely make a CS student of La Salle dynamic and at the same time, be adept in human relations and become adaptive to certain business and organizational conditions. Another bright side of this elective is to be aware of what ICT as an emerging global technology can do to individuals and collectively, to organizations.
it/ictm is perceived as a course for those who want to be managers with a technical side. in the working world, we non-it/ictm students can also have the chance of being promoted to managerial levels. even if we don't have academic training on business, some of us can learn the basics along the way. however, it is better if we had some academic background to give us an idea of how it is in the corporate world. having a business course gives a different perspective for us. this is our last term and thinking of an 8-hour-a-day job in front of the computer is not really attractive. at least now, we can see our future careers in a larger perspective. - bea tabunar
i think it's a good oportunity for us IST majors to further enhance our managing skills... being ist majors doesn't only need know-how's in multimedia and programming and education. We may also need this to make our lives and work easier...^^
I suppose it's because, like it or not, we will end up working with one company or another. Unlike other professionals, like, say, dentists, programmers can't work on their own. Even freelancers usually end up with a team for a project.
aljan ciruela orgmgnt (dont mind the spelling :) the comsci people are mostly surounded with an environment of tachnology and books.. but in the real life, life is not all about books and gadgets..it could be possible that the school wants us to learn more about people skills. We could be the boss or the employee one day and being a robot-like programer is not the only skill we need. In the end, if we are skilled workers, with people skills and a have a sharp mind then we will be well equiped of what reality really is..tama ba mga spelling? haha
i think that orgmgnt is one of our free electives because they wanted us to know if not everything, most of the things that involve surviving out there in the real world. yea maybe they say if you're a lasalle graduate theres a sure job waiting for you out there. but what if there none related to your course. at least with this it is possible that you could get a temporary job that you already know while you wait and find the job you like. or maybe they just wanted to let us learn new things so that we will not be stuck in just our knowledge related to our course ^^;
I agree with what Justin said. Not just IST or ST, but anybody also needs "learning in 'real-life management situations'". We can't be employees forever-- we also need to know how to manage a business of our own. Honestly before entering this class I don't find the subject interesting, however, after a week and a half, I'm starting to grasp the necessity of having management skills. We need not to be competitive with just our specialization skills, we also need to be competitive in handling things. That, I believe, will make us more holistic.
Actually, it was either ORGMGNT or INTRACT. :) or STNEDMA. in any case, i decided to go for ORGMGNT because i figured that it would go nicely with the technical background and knowledge that our ST courses have given us. :) whereas our ST courses have honed our analytical and problem-solving skills, a course in organizational management would provide us with much-needed skill development in areas such as communication, group dynamics, leadership, and social responsibility. :) being equipped with these practical skills effectively broadens our horizons and gives us a wider range of opportunities in career advancement and self-fulfillment. :) even for starting positions such as programmers and software developers, more and more companies are looking for graduates with some amount of experience or expertise in management, possibly because of the increasingly dynamic and collaborative nature of most software companies nowadays. :) all in all, i believe that ORGMGNT would provide us with the necessary skills to become better team members, (project) managers, leaders, and (maybe) even entrepreneurs and executives in the future. :)
Probably because ST department realized that ST curriculum lacks managerial courses. If my memory serves me right, the only managerial course offered before to ST students was Introduction to Management. ^__^
Seeing as to how the industry revolves, Technical skills are not enough and wont suffice. I am a shiftee from ST to ICTM and I have realized the importance of this course not only as an elective but a very important subject to teach us managerial skills and management concepts that we will encounter as we go to work. Also, it is much better to venture to management rather than focusing only on the technical aspect. Through management, the act of planning, organizing, directing, leading and controlling resources in an organization, we can achieve the enhancement of work, goals, outputs, purposes and increase productivity.
For me, knowing how to program, program, and program isn't enough if you want to be successful in the industry. You should also learn how the industry works, like how to establish a business, how do organizations gain profit, what are the components of an organization etc..
I believe ORGMNGT is the course that will equip us with the knowledge and skills to survive in the industry. That is why Orgmngt was prescribed to us as our "compulsory" elective. ^_^
In my opinion, being able to manage people is very important and having ideas regarding business would greatly enrich us students on computer science degree. In any field, managing people is inevitable. In life , learning is a continuous process that is why venturing into another field of study would greatly benefit us all
For me, i can see the need for this subject in my course (CS-ST). From what i hear, many of today's programmers are not so good when it comes to expressing themselves. This is a very sad thing indeed because in order to become a manager or at least a software team lead, one must know how to lead a team. Also, one must know to relate with people. I mean, its not like when you go to the industry, the only "communication" means is the documentation, right? People still need to relate to one another and for programmers. Since orgmgnt teaches the basic business practices and even ethics, i think it is a very relevant course for anyone attempting to go to the industry. Also, having these skills would increase the number of career options that one could have. And, as ma'am said, "sa ST, yung fallback ay magtayo ng sariling company" or something like that. With that in mind, i think that this subject is relevant to my course.
Like what my fellow ST classmates had already said, I also agree that having technical / programming skills is not enough for most companies nowadays. They usually hire people who are capable of sharing out their ideas to their businesses and making their organizations successful in their goals. Moreover, they select people who have the "versatility" in handling different kinds of business situations.
I strongly believe that by studying ORGMNGT, we can learn the necessary managerial skills and concepts which are useful in our careers especially in the IT field. Having this knowledge is an EDGE for future IT graduates like us.
BTW, Aside from ORGMNGT, I also took up INTRACT (Introduction to Accounting), another (non-ST) ICTM course... :P
Frankly, as a BS-ICTM student, ORGMGNT is essential in the overall scheme of things in my course. It shouldn't be labeled as "just an elective subject" because it is very important for us as students to learn on how organizations work. It can serve as a foundation to many upcoming courses. It may very well help manage our time and work properly. Not only that, I feel that this is one course that everyone needs because when we go out into the real world, we need information from such a course to help us survive. In a nutshell, ORGMGNT should be offered and maintained in the prescribed courses.
Whatever we do in our professional life, chances are it will involve “organizational management” or just plainly “management” alone. From these, I can say that “management” plays an important role in our lives. Not only because most of the successful persons are good in “management”, but even the richest one. That makes me find no reason not to study ORGMGNT.
I think this course is something that can be learned through experiences not just inside school but even outside. What I mean is that we can learn organization and management in house, community and industry. But it does not mean that we don’t have to study it in school. School is an institution specialized in systematically teaching subjects and there’s no question about it. Although we can learn that course outside school, we can never assure what we are learning is proper and enough. I don’t want to say that what we learn from school are all correct, I admit, there might be some flaws but in the end we are assured that it is in better precision than what we learn outside it.
I am nothing against the ST department making this “compulsory”. In fact they are researching other courses that might be equally important as this. They made this compulsory because they think it will eventually benefit us. I believe they are just equipping us with the knowledge that we will surely need soon.
Android is a mobile operating system that has been highly successful because of its incredible features. Most of the smart phones in the market run on Android OS. Since the success of Android, lot of Android Development Companies has spurred up everywhere. We are also putting good logic to develop more in this field tachnologys basket
19 comments:
Justin Tuason
ORGMGNT S18
Being an IST student major, I find it relevant and necessary to have a background knowledge on management and organization ideas primarily because I can use such learning in "real-life management situations". Aside from having the proper technical skills we can use IT-related concepts especially when we become part of the corporate world. It would definitely make a CS student of La Salle dynamic and at the same time, be adept in human relations and become adaptive to certain business and organizational conditions. Another bright side of this elective is to be aware of what ICT as an emerging global technology can do to individuals and collectively, to organizations.
it/ictm is perceived as a course for those who want to be managers with a technical side. in the working world, we non-it/ictm students can also have the chance of being promoted to managerial levels. even if we don't have academic training on business, some of us can learn the basics along the way. however, it is better if we had some academic background to give us an idea of how it is in the corporate world. having a business course gives a different perspective for us. this is our last term and thinking of an 8-hour-a-day job in front of the computer is not really attractive. at least now, we can see our future careers in a larger perspective.
- bea tabunar
Bare, Katrina Shamile L.
OrgMgnt s21
i think it's a good oportunity for us IST majors to further enhance our managing skills... being ist majors doesn't only need know-how's in multimedia and programming and education. We may also need this to make our lives and work easier...^^
I suppose it's because, like it or not, we will end up working with one company or another. Unlike other professionals, like, say, dentists, programmers can't work on their own. Even freelancers usually end up with a team for a project.
aljan ciruela
orgmgnt
(dont mind the spelling :)
the comsci people are mostly surounded with an environment of tachnology and books.. but in the real life, life is not all about books and gadgets..it could be possible that the school wants us to learn more about people skills. We could be the boss or the employee one day and being a robot-like programer is not the only skill we need. In the end, if we are skilled workers, with people skills and a have a sharp mind then we will be well equiped of what reality really is..tama ba mga spelling? haha
being an ictm major, it's required! - oleg de leon 10529071
vinno pacia
orgmgnt s21
cs - ist
i think that orgmgnt is one of our free electives because they wanted us to know if not everything, most of the things that involve surviving out there in the real world. yea maybe they say if you're a lasalle graduate theres a sure job waiting for you out there. but what if there none related to your course. at least with this it is possible that you could get a temporary job that you already know while you wait and find the job you like. or maybe they just wanted to let us learn new things so that we will not be stuck in just our knowledge related to our course ^^;
I agree with what Justin said. Not just IST or ST, but anybody also needs "learning in 'real-life management situations'". We can't be employees forever-- we also need to know how to manage a business of our own. Honestly before entering this class I don't find the subject interesting, however, after a week and a half, I'm starting to grasp the necessity of having management skills. We need not to be competitive with just our specialization skills, we also need to be competitive in handling things. That, I believe, will make us more holistic.
~tori, s21, orgmgnt
Actually, it was either ORGMGNT or INTRACT. :) or STNEDMA. in any case, i decided to go for ORGMGNT because i figured that it would go nicely with the technical background and knowledge that our ST courses have given us. :) whereas our ST courses have honed our analytical and problem-solving skills, a course in organizational management would provide us with much-needed skill development in areas such as communication, group dynamics, leadership, and social responsibility. :) being equipped with these practical skills effectively broadens our horizons and gives us a wider range of opportunities in career advancement and self-fulfillment. :) even for starting positions such as programmers and software developers, more and more companies are looking for graduates with some amount of experience or expertise in management, possibly because of the increasingly dynamic and collaborative nature of most software companies nowadays. :) all in all, i believe that ORGMGNT would provide us with the necessary skills to become better team members, (project) managers, leaders, and (maybe) even entrepreneurs and executives in the future. :)
Aliento, Juno
ORGMGNT S18
Probably because ST department realized that ST curriculum lacks managerial courses. If my memory serves me right, the only managerial course offered before to ST students was Introduction to Management. ^__^
Miguel Cabral
ORGMGNT S18
I believe that ORGMGNT is offered to us so that we could learn important management concepts that we will be needing in the industry.
John Bryan Marciales
s18 ORGMGNT
Seeing as to how the industry revolves, Technical skills are not enough and wont suffice. I am a shiftee from ST to ICTM and I have realized the importance of this course not only as an elective but a very important subject to teach us managerial skills and management concepts that we will encounter as we go to work. Also, it is much better to venture to management rather than focusing only on the technical aspect. Through management, the act of planning, organizing, directing, leading and controlling resources in an organization, we can achieve the enhancement of work, goals, outputs, purposes and increase productivity.
Aaron C. Pacaon
ORGMGNT S18
For me, knowing how to program, program, and program isn't enough if you want to be successful in the industry. You should also learn how the industry works, like how to establish a business, how do organizations gain profit, what are the components of an organization etc..
I believe ORGMNGT is the course that will equip us with the knowledge and skills to survive in the industry. That is why Orgmngt was prescribed to us as our "compulsory" elective. ^_^
good evening and God bless to all =]
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In my opinion, being able to manage people is very important and having ideas regarding business would greatly enrich us students on computer science degree.
In any field, managing people is inevitable.
In life , learning is a continuous process that is why venturing into another field of study
would greatly benefit us all
ORGMGNT S18
For me, i can see the need for this subject in my course (CS-ST). From what i hear, many of today's programmers are not so good when it comes to expressing themselves. This is a very sad thing indeed because in order to become a manager or at least a software team lead, one must know how to lead a team. Also, one must know to relate with people. I mean, its not like when you go to the industry, the only "communication" means is the documentation, right? People still need to relate to one another and for programmers. Since orgmgnt teaches the basic business practices and even ethics, i think it is a very relevant course for anyone attempting to go to the industry. Also, having these skills would increase the number of career options that one could have. And, as ma'am said, "sa ST, yung fallback ay magtayo ng sariling company" or something like that. With that in mind, i think that this subject is relevant to my course.
Kirk Ilagan
ORGMGNT S18
Like what my fellow ST classmates had already said, I also agree that having technical / programming skills is not enough for most companies nowadays. They usually hire people who are capable of sharing out their ideas to their
businesses and making their organizations successful in their goals. Moreover, they select people who have the "versatility" in handling different kinds of business situations.
I strongly believe that by studying ORGMNGT, we can learn the necessary managerial skills and concepts which are useful in our careers especially in the IT field. Having this knowledge is an EDGE for future IT graduates like us.
BTW, Aside from ORGMNGT, I also took up INTRACT (Introduction to Accounting), another (non-ST) ICTM course... :P
Frankly, as a BS-ICTM student, ORGMGNT is essential in the overall scheme of things in my course. It shouldn't be labeled as "just an elective subject" because it is very important for us as students to learn on how organizations work. It can serve as a foundation to many upcoming courses. It may very well help manage our time and work properly. Not only that, I feel that this is one course that everyone needs because when we go out into the real world, we need information from such a course to help us survive. In a nutshell, ORGMGNT should be offered and maintained in the prescribed courses.
Dino Z. Flores
ORGMGNT S18
Whatever we do in our professional life, chances are it will involve “organizational management” or just plainly “management” alone. From these, I can say that “management” plays an important role in our lives. Not only because most of the successful persons are good in “management”, but even the richest one. That makes me find no reason not to study ORGMGNT.
I think this course is something that can be learned through experiences not just inside school but even outside. What I mean is that we can learn organization and management in house, community and industry. But it does not mean that we don’t have to study it in school. School is an institution specialized in systematically teaching subjects and there’s no question about it. Although we can learn that course outside school, we can never assure what we are learning is proper and enough. I don’t want to say that what we learn from school are all correct, I admit, there might be some flaws but in the end we are assured that it is in better precision than what we learn outside it.
I am nothing against the ST department making this “compulsory”. In fact they are researching other courses that might be equally important as this. They made this compulsory because they think it will eventually benefit us. I believe they are just equipping us with the knowledge that we will surely need soon.
Android is a mobile operating system that has been highly successful because of its incredible features. Most of the smart phones in the market run on Android OS. Since the success of Android, lot of Android Development Companies has spurred up everywhere. We are also putting good logic to develop more in this field
tachnologys basket
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